CHARLOTTE PLANNING COMMISSION
7:00 P.M., THURSDAY, JANUARY 17, 2002
TOWN OFFICES, 425-3533
Members Present:
Chairman Jeff McDonald
Jim Donovan
Gordon Troy
Al Moraska
Josie Leavitt
Members Absent:
Dave Brown
Officials Present:
Planner Dean Bloch
Guests Signed in:
Debbie Ramsdell
Mel Hawley
John Pitrowiski
Tom Welch
Steve Clark
Bill Lockwood
Joe Parotto
Stephen C. Brooks
1. General Business: Review of minutes for
December 20, 2001: With additions and corrections for clarification and future
understanding, Gordon Troy moved to
approve the minutes for December 20, 2001 with corrections, Jim Donovan
seconded the motion and it was approved, 5-0 with two members absent.
Draft decision of Sennhenn application: A change was added to
#2, that the applicant shall apply to amend this permit for alternative parking
in accordance with the current zoning regulations in effect at that time. The
change was unanimously accepted.
2. Wayne Clark, Boundary
Adjustment on Mount Philo Road and McGuire Pent Road: Wayne Clark said the
purpose of this request is to assist in settling his mother’s estate. He
produced copies of some town maps which showed property lines.
Mr. Clark described Pent Road, which used to be named Town Rte.
#16 and is now a trail. This right of way actually belongs to the Town of
Charlotte, and there are records which show that the Town used to pay $5.00 to
the landowners. There are actually two rights of way, he said. All the survey
pipes were found, and the numbers on the map are the same numbers that were on
the survey.
Jim Donovan wanted to be assured that the right of way
exists. Gordon was concerned that the
27+ acres to be created on the south portion of the Clark parcel has a right of way. Jim asked if there is a spur of the r.o.w. along the northern
side of the Clark parcel, and that needs to be on the deed and the map.
Dean Bloch included his recommendations for this application and
the suggested wording of the motion:
Approve the Boundary
Adjustment with the following conditions:
(1) Both maps should be
titled “Boundary Adjustment of Doris Clark Estate” and labeled “Sheet 1 of
2" and “Sheet 2 of 2”,
(2) The “before
adjustment” and “after adjustment” acreage for all affected lots should be
indicated on the maps.
(3) The new lot lines to be
eliminated should be labeled.
(4) “McGuire” should be added
to “Pent Road.”
(5) A “vicinity map” showing
all affected parcels would be helpful.”
Jim noted that one of the
maps did not have Pent Road identified.
Al asked how they can join two parcels of land if the Town has
the deeded right of way. Mr. Clark said it’s because this is written in the
deed.
Jim said nowhere on the survey does it say “town” and would like
to add a condition that in order for this to be final, that there be enough
evidence shown to the Town Planner that a right of way does exist. Gordon
agreed, and further suggested that the deed should make reference to that, and
the spur that Jim asked about.
Gordon suggested that if they want to use the other right of
ways are clearly delineated so that the other properties don’t become land
locked. If that the right of way for the spur along the northern side of the
Clark parcel exists, it should be on the map, and it should not be on
there if it doesn’t exist. If this is a mistake (on the tax map), then it
should be taken off. Wayne said the
stakes are there and that won’t be a problem.
Jim Donovan moved to
approve the application of Wayne Clark for a boundary adjustment with
Conditions 1 through 5 of the Town Planner’s notes as read by Jeff McDonald,
and
(6) The sheath titled “Plan
of Land of Wayne and Faye Clark, Charlotte, Vermont” be amended to show the
parcel of land extending to the north that will be deeded to Wayne, and
(7) That both plans clearly
show the 60 ft. right of way access to land to be deeded to Steven and
Elizabeth Clark.
Gordon Troy said there should
also be a condition
(8) That there is either
satisfaction of non existence of a right of way that is shown on the tax map
that is shown along the northern boundary of the property of Wayne and Faye
Clark, or if it does exist, that the right of way be clearly delineated on both
the mylar and the deed. If the right
of way to the property to the east does not exist, and that can be shown to the
Town Planner, then Condition #8 is automatically satisfied.
Josie Leavitt seconded the motion as amended and Jeff McDonald
asked for discussion. Stephen Brooks asked to hear clarification of Condition
#8 and it was repeated. The motion was
approved, 5-0 with two members absent.
3. Greenwood America,
Subdivision Modification: Mel Hawley brought a map showing all of the holdings of Greenwood
America from Lake Road to Ferry Road. The subdivision modification involves the
transfer of two parcels, to become joined with Parcel 3 which is the one with
the farmhouse and barn. For the Lake Road parcel with 32 acres, they are
proposing to create a 15+ acre lot which is the next item on the agenda.
The balance of 17 acres would be joined with lot 3 which is the
farmhouse and barn property. He described a lot line which would be gone. The
other change relates to a small piece of property and it relates to the hopeful
sale of the lot with the Waldorf School.
The so-called creamery lot is currently 7.73 acres, and the
proposal would be for allowing the sale of 6 acres to the Waldorf School and
reserving 1.7 acres which would then be combined with Lot #3 which is the
farmhouse and barn parcel. Adding the 1.7 acres in Lot 3, it could be the site
of a future septic pump station.
Gordon noted that after the next agenda item, they will end up
with Lot 3, the farmhouse lot, which will have 56.36 that will extend to the
back of Mack’s farm property and the other subdivisions.
Mel commented on Dean’s notes about the draft wildlife corridor
and public trail easement, which in essence would cause a problem. What they
are offering, he said, is that all of the plats will reference these easements.
There is a 50-car parking lot associated with the creamery
building, Mel said.
Jim Donovan asked if there is any way of extending the right of
way over Lot #2 through #4, to the rear of Lot #3 on the south side. He said while they are doing this
subdivision preparations should be made to assure access to the back, or rear
of Lot #3. The wet area on the
west end of Lot #3 creates a problem for access, Mel said. Jim said before the lot is sold to the
school, the easement from Ferry Road to the rear of Lot #3 should be provided,
before it’s too late. Mel said they are
trying to get an easement.
Gordon said there could be a condition that as Lot #3 is
enlarged, access to any development in the rear of Lot 3 cannot be created across the western Ferry Road frontage of
Lot 3.
Jeff asked if there is any objection to the boundary adjustment.
Jim Donovan moved to
approve this Greenwood America application for a boundary adjustment with the
condition that all maps show the floating trail easement and access to the rear
of Lot #3, and that access to the Lot 3 be through one of the existing
drives: either Lot 1 or Lot 2. Gordon Troy seconded the motion, but wants
the intent to be clear that the current
curb cut for Lot 3 is not intended to service the 23.5 acres that is being
merged into Lot #3. That last sentence is offered as a friendly amendment.
In discussion, Mel Hawley said Greenwood America goes further
than what was requested of them; the floating trail easement will go all the
way over to Ferry Road. He asks if it
would be permissible to run the walkway trail along a 20 or 30 ft. along the road. Members agreed that this could keep pedestrians, horses and
bicycles off the roadway. The intention
of the long range trails plan is to accommodate a whole inter network across
the town.
There was further discussion about the open space modifications
which are still acceptable.
Jeff called for the vote, and the motion was approved, 5-0 with
two members absent.
4. Greenwood America,
application to create a 3 lot subdivision on Lake Road: Mel Hawley said this
application is quite different from the original proposal. There is now a 15+ acres with a 3-lot p.r.d.
and “much better-shaped lots” than in the original proposal asking for 4 lots.
There are a number of changes, he said. Starting from the road,
because there was a requirement to have a 20' wide wildlife trail running along
the common area and then floating beyond, they needed to move the road. The fire pond has been eliminated and the
building envelope for Lot 3 (which used to be lot 4) is smaller. The property
lines are all outside of the buffer zone and no one owner will own land in the
wetland area. So there is the wetland,
a 50' buffer, and another 50' beyond that.
There will be a fence only during the construction area, Mel said.
Mr. Pitrowiski noted that Dean’s staff notes called attention to
an error in depicting the property line, and said that error has been
corrected. He said the wells are inside
the building envelope and this new map is the one that they want to have
recorded. The common space is 11.74 acres, and the lots are 1.1, 1.4 and 1.21.
The total is 15.19.
The septic system is a community area but each lot has its own
1000 gallon septic tank and it pumps to its own separate trench. This is a
separate fringe within a common mound. The written Operation and Maintenance
requirements will require that the homeowners be responsible for their own
septic tanks (spelled out in the covenants), and that there has to be an inspection
of the main area each year.
Mel said they had engaged David Raphael to create hedgerows
between the lots. There are existing hedgerows on the north and south and
David’s plan calls for enhancing them and creating a new hedgerow. The other
improvements are to take some of these trees and spread them. They are not proposing to plant new trees
along the road.
There is a wide variety of plants proposed with 6 to 7' shrubs
with a mix of evergreens. Steve Mack asked that some of these be pines. There
are some varieties of pines and some cedars in the mix, with more than 50% of
them being evergreens.
Mel said there is a request with the Selectboard to name the
street “Robin Lane.” They had asked for “Meadow Lane” but that was rejected. He
said the Selectmen would actually choose the name.
Robert Mack asked if there are any covenants, re an
acknowledgment that there is a farm in the area. He said he would not want
anyone complaining about farm activity.
Jim Donovan said usually that is done, and in the proposed new
Town Plan that will be addressed. The Town
Plan addresses the homogenous nature of the rural community. Jim said the concept of putting something in
the covenants in this case isn’t a bad
idea.
Stephen Brooks stated that putting that in would encourage the
Town to stay rural in nature. Mr.
Pitrowiski said it is possible to put something in the covenants about this.
Jeff noted that this plat did receive preliminary approval and
the recommendations have been done, as Dean has noted. The number of lots has
gone from 4, to 3. The building envelopes have been done, the shared driveway
has changed.
Gordon noted that visually there may be too much driveway. He asks if the Planning Commission needs to
keep open the driveway approval. Mel
said they had put “typical” for the driveway location. He proposes to take the
driveway depictions off entirely, with the knowledge that when the builder
comes in he may change the location entirely according to where the garages
will be and what the shape of each house is.
Mr. Pitrowiski agreed that a shared driveway may be better and
that is usually done to minimize curb cuts. But a landscape architect may
decide, if the individual buyer wants, to make a separate driveway rather than
to have a shared one.
There was a discussion about the Army Corps of Engineers and
their jurisdiction for wetlands.
Jeff started to read Dean’s recommendations regarding the
covenants. Mel agreed that whatever these changes would be in the final
approval, they would agree to do.
The requirements were for a 25' maximum height, but Greenwood
America asks for a 30' maximum height for the homes due to the fact there is a
35' maximum height for the rest of the town. They expect to have 3 houses with
4 bedrooms each. There is an 8,000' aggregate and no single dwelling could be
greater than 2,850 s.f. This has to be
clarified in the covenants so that if the first two homes happen to have, say
the full 2,800 s.f. the final home will have to be smaller.
Steve Mack said he’s the one who will have to look at these
houses, so asked if the houses were larger, that the screening trees should be
larger. The trees chosen, it was observed, are of a type that will grow fast
(and Robert was advised, jokingly, to go over there and add some manure from
his farm to make the trees grow faster).
Language can be put in so that final refinements can be done
administratively at the Planning Office.
Gordon Troy moved to close
the hearing on Greenwood America and finalize it in deliberative session. Josie Leavitt seconded the motion and it was approved,
5-0 with two absent.
5. Continued deliberation on
Stearns, acreage of open space area. There were slight changes in
wording of Dean’s recommended decision. The “subject parcel” at the eastern
portion was changed to read, “lot 9.”
The wastewater disposal plan is shown on the survey, as requested.
Al said in #2 of the open space area, and asked if that were too
much. Gordon said the total of 40 acres should include the building lots, the
road r.o.w. easement, and the rest of the 40 acres. Josie said they had added up all the lot sizes which came up to
8.45 includes the original house. That makes 31.55 acres left and Jim said they
should include the road calculation in that. Dean suggested that the wording of
the open space requirement is to be, “the eastern portion of lot 9" and
defined as 31.5 acres.
Condition #16 says that the application shall provide a
landscape plan. Jim said that doesn’t have to be an individual landscape plan
for each lot, but just a screening.
Gordon asked that there be a condition that “only single family
units will be allowed.” The square
footage average for the neighborhood, Jeff said, is too small for market
conditions if it is only 1800 s.f.
Gordon and Al both said they would prefer the limit to be less than 2000
s.f. Jim preferred 2200 s.f. Josie liked the idea that they could build
a smaller house, under 2000 s.f. and then have the possibility of adding a room
over the garage. The 25' height was agreed to.
Stephen Brooks wanted to add comments but this was a deliberative
session.
Gordon wanted to add a condition that the total square footage
of accessory structures be limited to 500 s.f., and that
was deemed too restrictive. It was
finally agreed to have the final square footage of living space at 2000 s.f. in
the proposed decision.
Gordon Troy moved that
the Planning Commission approve the Findings of Fact and Decision for Rodney
and Donna Stearns subdivision, as amended.
Jeff McDonald seconded the motion and it was approved, 4-1 with two
absent.
Josie Leavitt moved to
adjourn, at 10:00 p.m. Gordon Troy
seconded and the meeting closed, 5-0.
APPROVED BY THE CHARLOTTE PLANNING COMMISSION ON
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