CHARLOTTE PLANNING COMMISSION
7:00 P.M., THURSDAY, JANUARY 18, 2001
TOWN OFFICES, 425-3533
Members Present:
Chairman Jeff McDonald
Ed Stone
Josie Leavitt
Ed Melby
Members Absent:
Dave Brown
Al Moraska
Jim Donovan
Officials Present:
Planner Dean Bloch
Zoning Administrator Tom Mansfield
Guests Signed In:
Mike Kurt
George Burrill
1. General Business: Minutes for November 30, 2000 were accepted. November
16th minutes were reviewed. Ed
Stone moved to accept the minutes of November 16, 2000. Josie Leavitt
seconded and the motion was approved, 4B0
with 3 absent. were approved and December 21st minutes were reviewed. On
page 1, a clarifying phrase was added for the location of the mound in a group
of mounds within a common area. Ed Melby moved to approve the minutes of
December 21, 2000 with that addition. Ed Stone seconded the motion and it
was approved with 3 votes for, 1 abstention and 3 absent.
As a general discussion, Ed Melby cautioned that for
any new developments especially of this size, an impact statement should
probably be prepared for the school board. For instance if there were an
average of 3 school aged children per house, for 10 houses that would be 30
expected new students for the system to absorb. It=s just something to be aware of. No vote was taken on this.
January 4, 2001 minutes were postponed. However Dean=s letters and findings were reviewed. Ed Melby said he would like to be sure that
the Planning Commission work with the Stearns to be sure things are going along
as planned.
Jeff McDonald questioned #2 (findings) that the
driveway cuts for all the development should be off the access road. Dean
showed another plan where the curb cuts were different. The drive cuts for all
the building lots had not been discussed at the Sketch Plan. Dean said the Stearns would like to stay
away from Act 250 so some further discussions had occurred.
Jeff had a comment at the end of #1 could be removed,
and then go to #2 and scratch that. Then the fire pond was discussed as
commented on at their site visit. There
would be a cul-de-sac at the end of the drive for the fire trucks to be able to
turn around for #4. There would also be
a pull-off area. The numbers of the findings are changed as discussed, and
There should be some language crafted to specify the no-build area unless an
open space agreement is done.
Ed Melby suggested they notify North Ferrisburgh, and
Dean said that will be done automatically since the statutes require this. There was consensus to approve the Stearns
recommendations.
Plouffe Lane letter: There is a roadway agreement and
Ed Stone suggested that this be noted in the letter that goes to Yvan Plouffe,
that this be put in the deed. Jeff said the APlanning
Commission recommends that a Maintenance Agreement be included in the deeds
for the new lots.@ There was a
consensus to approve the Plouffe recommendations as revised.
Traffic Study: Ed Stone suggested that since the
Country Home Products had used a traffic study, the Waldorf School applicants
might be able to use that knowledge.
Even though it isn=t a requirement to have their own traffic study it is
hoped that when they do their scenario, they make sure the timing for the
beginning and ending of the school day doesn=t
conflict with the same time the trains arrive or the ferries are letting cars
off.
Dean said #1 says, Traffic concerns will be addressed
through timing and arrivals coincide with existing other schedules. Ed Stone
asked that he also say that the applicants include the study that was done and
that they work with that study. The
Planning Commission approved the Waldorf letter as revised.
The town attorney was contacted and discussed the
Stockbridge Homeowners Association. Since the application was specifically for
the Barkers= lot and the site plan shows a reduced setback only
for that lot it only applies to that lot. Fire Pond Road is not constructed to
the north of the applicant= lot. The parcel to the north of these lots is
protected by a condition of the original subdivision approval so it is not
likely that there will be any further extension of this road. His
recommendation is to not take any further action. The Stockbridge Homeowners
Association issue is closed.
2. George Burrill B Sketch Plan Review for Subdivision Modification, Lucy=s Lane and Higbee Road: The applicant proposes to divide an 11.5 acre lot
into two, but join one of these two, a 5.97 acre piece, with his adjoining
parcel which is 30 acres. The remaining
5.19 acres is proposed to be sold as a building lot.
The 5.19 acre lot was approved previously, but since
it is now smaller than 10 acres it will need a State subdivision permit. Mr.
Burrill has a preliminary design for a new septic system.
Mr. Burrill said he wants to keep control of the pond
and the wooded area. This was part of a
subdivision in which this lot was created in 1978. He bought it in 1982 when it was part of the Lucy Lane
subdivision so thought this might be a subdivision modification.
Dean mentioned that Paul Craven had called about
drainage from above. Mr. Burrill said AJunior@ had fixed
that. Higbee is a Town Road and it is believed Lucy Lane is a private road.
Jeff McDonald moved to classify the George Burrill
application as a Subdivision Modification. Ed Stone seconded and the motion was approved, 4B0 with three members absent.
3. Tom Mansfield: Discussion regarding Black Willow Phase II. Nancy Jenkins and Brian Jackson, who have
Lot #11, claim that Graham Goldsmith constructed Thorpe Cove Road across the
corner of their lot in violation of the approval. And thus, they say, it
reduces the marketability of said lot. Beal is Lot #10, Robinson is Lot
#9.
Tom said he first reviewed this request at the end of
July. There was no consensus at that
time, when he did a site visit, that there was anything wrong or that the
access road was any different then it was supposed to be. Since that time, he
did receive a copy of a letter that was drafted by Jackson and Jenkins, signed
by the Association members, to Graham Goldsmith requesting that Mr. Goldsmith
voluntarily correct the problem with the road.
Since that letter, Tom received a second certified
letter saying that the Town Amust take
action,@ and that as Zoning Administrator, he must take action
regarding this. He asked that a determination be issued in writing without
further delay.
Ed Stone asked if the road is built different from
what was approved. The complainants have shown what is shown in the land
records, vs. what is actually there and they say that is their proof.
Ed Stone noted that there is still a deposit of $3,500
from Graham Goldsmith in the Town. He
suggests that if a survey is ordered which would probably cost $1,500, it could
be taken from that deposit. If, however, the survey shows that the road is
built where it is supposed to be, then the Homeowners= Association would have to pay for the survey.
Ed Stone asked Tom to ask the Homeowners to come to
the Planning Commission meeting and then to ask them to make a
recommendation.
Tom has in the files a letter written in October of
1998 by Graham Goldsmith asking for the $3,500 deposit back. Charlie Burnham
had responded by making two requests, one of them being the survey regarding
the right of way. Graham Goldsmith never responded, and Tom Mansfield said he
had written Mr. Goldsmith another letter, to which he has not responded.
The other request to Mr. Goldsmith was about the fire
pond. There is no record that the
request to certify that the fire pond meets regulations. Tom was waiting for
Fire Chief Chris Davis to get back from recent surgery so he could find out if
that was ever done.
Jeff McDonald said the Town does have a vested
interest in making sure that roads are constructed according to plan. This road
is also access to the fire pond, he noted, so the Town does want to make sure
that it was constructed according to the approval.
Ed Stone said the best way to work this out with the
homeowners and also with Graham Goldsmith.
If we see that Mr. Goldsmith didn=t
do the correct thing, then we have legal recourse. We need to hear both
parties, he said. We extend the invitation and decide at that time. The
consensus of the Planning Commission is to make this a regular agenda item.
Dean Bloch will make time at the next Planning
Commission meeting for this discussion among the parties.
4. Tom Mansfield, discussion of
Certificate of Compliance: Tom
reported on his discussions with the Selectboard regarding creation of a
Certificate of Compliance, and what fees would be charged for this.
Usually up until now, attorneys will come in and ask
Tom to look in all the records and see whether a property they are doing a
title search on has all its permits in order and whether there is anything
which will prevent a closing. Tom does the work and they leave.
This will be similar to a Certificate of Occupancy
issued for a residence whether it is new, or has recently had some renovations
done. But this is for an existing property to be sure it meets current
regulations and the septic systems, etc. are adequate.
Members agreed this would be acceptable and settled on
a fee of $50.00 for this. Tom will take this information back to the
Selectboard. Ed Melby moved to make a resolution to the Selectboard
regarding Certificates of Compliance. Josie Leavitt seconded and the motion
was approved, 4B0 with 3 members absent.
5. Railroad Lighting Plan: The Planning Commission did an Administrative Review
for the remaining conditions of the Site Plan Approval. The lighting will be
toned down, with wattage reduced and lowered closer to the ground.
They also looked at the island, which will be planted
and not paved, and the landscaping plan.
Ed Stone moved to accept the Landscaping and Lighting
plans for the train station that are already submitted for approval. Josie Leavitt seconded the motion and it was
approved, 4B0 with 3 absent.
6. General Business: Members of the Planning Commission have been invited
to go to Hinesburg for a joint meeting and presentation by the Chittenden
Regional Planning Commission and discuss what kind of needs we have. Regional
Planning had helped with the traffic study in the past, Ed Stone said.
At
8:25 p.m., Ed Melby moved to adjourn. Ed Stone seconded and it was
unanimous.
APPROVED BY THE CHARLOTTE PLANNING
COMMISSION ON
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