CHARLOTTE PLANNING COMMISSION

7:00 P.M., THURSDAY, MAY 17, 2001

TOWN OFFICES, 425-3533 

 


Members Present:


Chairman Jeff McDonald

Al Moraska


Gordon Troy                                                                                                   

Dave Brown                                                                                                    


Members Absent:


Josie Leavitt

Jim Donovan


Ed Stone   

                                                                                                                          


Officials Present:


Planner Dean Bloch


 


Guests Signed in:


Chris Kingston

Sylvia Sprigg


Stephen C. Brooks


1.   Chris and Heather Kingston: Preliminary Plat Hearing for 2-lot subdivision on Greenbush Road resulting in a 5‑acre lot being gifted to the Town: Chris was asked to explain the reasons for some restrictions on the gifted parcel that he had discussed with the Selectboard.

He asked if this needed to be on the deed, or on a second document.

Chris said he had met with some folks after the Selectboard meeting, and said this is not his deal. He was told this has to be on a separate document.

The restrictions would be that the parcel could not be used from 30-minutes each side of sunrise to sunset, that there could be no motorized vehicles, that no ski tow could be installed, that there could be no fires and no structures of any kind.

Sylvia Sprigg said that at one time there was a mechanical engine rope tow.

A Planning Commission member stated that he could appreciate people not wanting skiers using the back side of the yard, but asked, “What about an electric motor?”

This has been a local practice ski hill. Although this is a current use, Chris said, he would rather not see it a day-long operation. There isn’t enough parking, he said. But if the Old Lantern expands, parking there could be utilized.

Jeff said that whatever the existing uses are, we would want to preserve. There is improved access through the existing trail setup.

Chris said he does want there to be no motocross; when someone mentioned that to him, it rang a bell, he said, because that had been done in the past.

Dave Brown said an electric motorized ski couldn’t be installed because there would have to be an engine backup.

Chris feels there would be a fire hazard from open fires although he would not restrict little grills. Dave cautioned him not to promote that.

Jeff suggested that an area be designated similar to an extension of the Demeter regulations. Dogs on leashes okay, horses okay in designated areas, no structures whether permanent or temporary, selective brush cutting. They should use photos as the guide.

There needs to be handicap access, and vehicles are only okay for this purpose. There must be a sign to document the allowed uses. He questioned whether this should be for residents only, but was reminded that the Demeter property is public and is not restricted to residents only.

Gordon Troy suggested that if the sign says “Town of Charlotte” it may restrict simply be inference.

Sylvia Sprigg mentioned a sign she had seen next to a tourist’s parking lot, “Private property, no camping.”


Chris said other rules were to be that snowshoeing, sledding, skiing and hiking would be allowed but no biking.

Dave Brown would allow snowshoeing and hiking, but no skiing except cross-country skiing; that would settle the motorized ski tow issue.

The lease for parking at the Old Lantern would be perpetually renewable in ten year increments.

Jeff advised him that at the Final hearing, he have an approved agreement signed by the Selectboard.  We could approve the Preliminary application subject to receiving this agreement.

The right of way for the pipe, to the tree line needs to be extended. Jeff said if a force main is used it can be ditched in, and that needs to be on the Mylar and the deed because it needs to be recorded.

Dean Bloch noted that the construction area was outside of the 40' right of way for the driveway.

According to Ward Preston on the design, he has suggested if there is a 2:1 grade, at that point he needed to take out all trees. Chris said the toughest part of the driveway is the first section; the soil is of crushed stone.

The deed should refer to the recorded maps, and refer to the Civil Engineer’s plan, and tie it back to the deed and the reasons for certain procedures.

Gordon noted that there were tree clearing limits on Lot 1 in th Subdivision approval, on the Subdivision map.

Jeff McDonald moved that the Planning Commission approve the Preliminary Plat Application as shown on the survey by Stuart Morrow with a waiver for providing septic disposal for Lot #4, with the following conditions:

(1) The title of the survey shall be changed to “Subdivision – Lots 1 and 4.”

(2) The applicant shall submit with the Final Plat application a final draft of the proposed deed for Lot #4, with written approval by the Selectboard (or meeting minutes indicating Selectboard approval) of the deed language, and shall include the restrictive use covenants on the recreational trail.

(3) That the seasonal uses of the park shall be described.

(4) That the proposed 40' right of way will refer to the actual driveway as constructed.

(5) Septic easement.  

Gordon Troy seconded the motion. With no further discussion, the motion was approved 4-0 with three members absent.

2.   Review Sketch Plan letters for Country Home Products and for the John Sheehan application.  Dean reminded that at this time there is no designated area set aside for preservation.

Jeff agreed, but the letter should have a reminder that if they do come back within a short period of time for additional subdivision the applicants should know that “for the next lot” an open space area needs to be designated. This can be a condition of acceptance of a permit.

Gordon questioned whether an application had come in for another permit recently, as he noticed a new set of steps on the south side of the road; from the road to the creamery building.  No, Dean said, no application had been made. It was news to other members as well.

3.   Discussion of Village Concept Plan: There was a discussion of where the grant money came from for this. After the present Town Plan is approved by the Regional Planning Commission, Dean said, money will be made available for additional planning. 

Discussions in meetings will be on how to configure the Village, and come up with ideas.  What is the time line?

Talk about all this when we have all the groups together. The Village Plan is another agenda item.


4.   General Business: Review of Minutes: Minutes for April 19th were reviewed. Two names were corrected, Jeff McDonald moved to approve minutes for April 19th with these corrections.  Dave Brown seconded and they were approved, 4-0 with 3 members absent.

Minutes for May 3rd were reviewed and no additional changes were suggested except that Josie Leavitt had been reported as both being present, and absent. She was present. Jeff McDonald moved to approve minutes for May 3rd.  Gordon Troy seconded, and they were approved, 4-0 with 3 members absent.

 

APPROVED BY THE CHARLOTTE PLANNING COMMISSION ON

 

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