Board of Selectmen January 24, 2000

TOWN OF CHARLOTTE

BOARD OF SELECTMEN

MINUTES

JANUARY 24, 2000

MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Marty Illick

John Rosenthal

James Sheldon-Dean

Clark Hinsdale, III

Robert Mack, Jr.



OTHERS: Mary Lighthall

Stephen C. Brooks

Harley Allen

Nancy P. Sabin

Charles Russell

Shirley Bean

Mike Yantachka

Claudia Mucklow

Nigel Mucklow

Dick St. George

Chris Sullivan

Edward Melby

Patricia Coleman

Peter Coleman

Mary Ann Gatos

Sylvia Sprigg

Ker B. Walker

Richard LeBoeuf

Wade Weathers

Chris W. Davis

Ray Walker

Sandy Mayo

Mary Beth Freeman

Richard Pollack

Louis Cox

Gloria Warden

Wendy Schroeder

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Chairman Illick called the meeting of the Board of Selectmen to 

order at 7:05 p.m. in the Charlotte Town Offices.



APPROVE MINUTES OF JANUARY 10TH 12TH AND 21ST

Chairman Illick asked board members if they wished to approve 

the minutes of January 10, and 12, 2000. In the minutes of 

January 10, Rosenthal noted the spelling of the engineer, Steve 

"Vock" in relation to the Mucklow case. Illick corrected in the 

motion on page 4 to read to pay Louis Cox $109.00 per month 

until the issue is resolved, rather than while the issue is 

resolved.





Board of Selectmen -2- January 24, 2000

Sheldon-Dean moved and the motion was seconded by

Rosenthal:

* "TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF JANUARY 10, 2000 AS

AMENDED."

Vote: 3 in favor, 1 abstained (Hinsdale, as he was

absent).

Board members reviewed the minutes of January 12, 2000. 

Rosenthal asked that the heading be changed to "Budget Work 

Session on page 1.

Mack moved and the motion was seconded by

Sheldon-Dean:

* "TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF JANUARY 12, 2000

AS AMENDED."

Vote: 3 in favor, 1 abstained (Hinsdale, as he was

absent).



ADJUSTMENTS TO AGENDA

There were not adjustments made to the agenda.



PUBLIC COMMENTS 

Shirley Bean discussed getting the "Welcome to Charlotte" signs 

repainted, noting that the Rotary Club was willing to pay for 

the 2 signs on Route 7 and would put their insignia on the 

bottom of the signs. Bean said the Grange was willing to pay 

for the 4 other signs to be repainted at a cost of $100.00 each. 

Illick questioned whether letting a club put their insignia on 

town signs set a bad precedent.

Nancy Sabin asked why there was an Executive Session set for 9 

p.m. and Illick explained that it was possible that the board 

might not go into Executive Session, but the item was listed 

that way so that attendees would not have the expectation the 

matters listed would be discussed in open session and then be 

unpleasantly surprised.



BOARD OF HEALTH - MUCKLOW SEPTIC ISSUES

Mack moved and the motion was seconded by

Sheldon-Dean:

"TO GO FROM THE SELECTBOARD TO THE BOARD OF HEALTH."

Vote: All in favor.

Nigel and Claudia Mucklow reviewed their problems in trying to 

get a Certificate of Occupancy on their property with regard to 

septic issues. Claudia Mucklow said they were looking to the 

board to get either a C.O. or to be reimbursed for their 

expenses if the work they have done on the septic system had to 

be repeated. Hinsdale said he had read the materials the 

Mucklows had provided the board and the next step would be to 

appeal Zoning Administrator, Louis Cox's decision not to grant a 

C.O.

Board of Selectmen -3- January 24, 2000

Louis Cox said his reason not to grant a C.O. was that the 

information he was provided was insufficient and did not 

reference the number of bedrooms in the house or the size of the 

septic system. Sheldon-Dean suggested that the Mucklows, their 

engineer, Steve Vock, and Cox stay in contact with each other to 

arrive at what would satisfy Cox's requirements to grant a C.O. 

Hinsdale added the parties should see if they can work out the 

problem together first.



MIKE BROWN - NEW STREET NAME APPROVAL

Chairman Illick said this agenda item was not yet ready for the 

board to hear.



SENIOR CENTER UPDATE

Peter Coleman said his committee has been meeting every Tuesday 

night and were preparing to do a presentation at Town Meeting in 

March. Coleman said he had talked with Karen Bates, an expert 

on wetlands concerning the proposed location for the senior 

center and he and Mary Ann Gatos had met with Louis Cox to get a 

sketch plan review on February 3rd. Coleman said the committee 

had been working on a survey of needs by seniors and putting 

together a board of directors and by-laws. Illick showed 

Coleman a letter on the senior center from town attorney, Steve 

Stitzel. Coleman said he had met with a trustee from Walter 

Irish's will about the steps the committee was taking and they 

were very positive about it.

Shirley Bean outlined the committee's suggestion that there be 7 

people on the board of directors and the committee had nominees 

in mind, but had yet to ask them to serve and asked the board 

who should contact the nominees. Illick said to provide the 

board with the list and they would make the contacts and Bean 

agreed to do so.

Nancy Sabin said there had been nothing budgeted to date for the 

senior center and suggested that $15,000.00 should be budgeted. 

Mack responded that the project would need to go out to bid and 

the tax rate is set in July and if the voters approve the 

expenditure, it would be included in the tax rate. Sandy Mayo 

stated that private funding doesn't need to go out to bid and 

Rosenthal said still, it was a good idea.



TOWN PLAN - SCHEDULE & WORK

Ed Melby stated the Selectboard has suggested readopting the old 

Town Plan while the new plan was being worked on, but in 

reviewing the statutes, if they did so, the town would be locked 

into the old plan for 5 years. Melby said the Planning 

Commission was recommending that the town go without a plan 

until the new plan was adopted. Hinsdale noted without a town 

plan the town has no legal status. Illick suggested the board 

needed to set up work sessions on the plan and have 2 public 

meetings.

Board of Selectmen -4- January 24, 2000

CHARLOTTE LAND TRUST - WAIVE $25 ZONING FEE FOR SEPTIC DESIGN 

APPROVAL FOR TOWN

Mack moved and the motion was seconded by

Sheldon-Dean:

"TO ABATE THE $25.00 APPLICATION FEE FOR THE

CHARLOTTE LAND TRUST FOR SEPTIC DESIGN APPROVAL FOR

THE TOWN."

Gloria Warden suggested that all the fees required for the 

project could add up to $100.00 and Mack and Sheldon-Dean agreed 

to withdraw the motion.

Mack moved and the motion was seconded by

Sheldon-Dean:

"TO WAVE ALL POTENTIAL FEES TO THE CHARLOTTE LAND

TRUST FOR SEPTIC DESIGN APPROVAL FOR THE TOWN ON THE

LAVALETTE PROPERTY."

Vote: All in favor.



ZONING ADMINISTRATOR - PROPOSED FEE CHANGE FOR CERTIFICATE OF 

OCCUPANCY

Louis Cox reviewed with the board his memo on reasons for 

wanting to change the fee schedule and forms for processing a 

request for a Certificate of Occupancy. Cox stated that 

research time varies for sites that have a lot of permits 

involved and those with open permits and the fees should reflect 

this. Hinsdale suggested that the Planning and Zoning office 

was going to do a review of fees and this would be an opportune 

time to adopt an updated schedule of fees. Harley Allen said 

the P & Z office was currently looking at schedules in other 

towns. Illick suggested a new fee schedule be put together and 

Cox work on a new form design.



A. JOHNSON UPDATE

Illick updated the board and attendees on the A. Johnson 

property and said the town had closed on the development rights 

on 173 acres, spending $178,000.00 on easements for public 

access, including 473 feet of river front.



FINALIZE BUDGET & WARNING

Sylvia Sprigg reviewed a proposed Town Meeting warning regarding 

delinquent taxes and collection of penalties prepared by 

attorney Liam Murphy requiring taxes to be received in the town 

offices on the due date rather than postmarked from any location 

by the due date. Sprigg said she had discussed the warning with 

Secretary of State, Markowitz's office who advised since the 

town does not have a charter that it can't do what is proposed 

in the warning, but the Delinquent Tax Collector could opt to do 

what is outlined in the warning.





Board of Selectmen -5- January 24, 2000

Mike Yantachuka said he felt the way the penalties are assessed 

(9%) are "too steep" and read the Letter from Markowitz's 

office, stating his opinion that the issue was a question of 

fairness.

Rosenthal moved and the motion was seconded by

Hinsdale:

"WE PLACE THIS IN THE WARNING FOR TOWN MEETING."

Vote: 1 in favor, (Rosenthal) 4 opposed.

Rosenthal moved and the motion was seconded by

Hinsdale:

"WE MAKE THIS AN ADVISORY MOTION REMOVING PART 2 AND

ALL BELOW IT."

Vote: 1 in favor, (Rosenthal) 4 opposed.

Wendy Schroeder advised that the town is forced to borrow money 

when taxes aren't paid on time.

Illick read Article 7 of the Town Meeting Day Warning regarding 

the proposed senior center and noted that seniors had expressed 

interest in having the Article scheduled earlier in the day.

Hinsdale moved and the motion was seconded by

Rosenthal:

"TO MOVE ARTICLE 7 IN THE PLACE OF ARTICLE 4 IN THE

TOWN MEETING DAY WARNING."

Vote: All in favor.

Board members discussed the budget, beginning with reviewing the 

Town Clerk's budget. Mack said he wanted both Assistants to be 

assigned 20 hours per week each and to leave Marlene Mansfield's 

health benefits the same. Sheldon-Dean and Hinsdale thought 

this was a good idea and Hinsdale added that if something came 

up, more hours could be assigned.

Wade Weathers asked how Charlotte compares with other towns for 

salaries and Hinsdale responded "we're pretty cheap."

Louis Cox said he had not discussed his job performance with the 

Selectboard and Illick responded that the Planning Commission 

has discussed the issue with her and Cox.

Harley Allen said he was upset about the Deputy Health Office 

position being eliminated and Illick responded that Cox's two 

positions were combined to 1 line item. Allen stated he thought 

Cox needed more hours and he thought Gloria Warden should get 

more than a 2.5% raise, because she does a really good job. 

Sheldon-Dean suggested that Cox try working a little faster and 

prioritizing his time more. Hinsdale said the work in the 

Planning and Zoning Office can't always be predicted, but if the 

town gets part-way through the year and finds more money is 

needed that it could be added to the budget and noted that 

permits are down by 15%.

Rosenthal moved:

"TO ADD TWO HOURS TO THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND

DEPUTY HEALTH OFFICER'S HOURS PER WEEK."

The motion failed for lack of a second.

Board of Selectmen -6- January 24, 2000

Cox advised that he might have to resign as Deputy Health 

Officer if he ended up working in the position for free.

Sandy Mayo discussed Cox and 2 former Zoning Administrators, who 

she feels work hard. Mary Beth Freeman reviewed the status of 

the WIZN issue.

Illick asked Cox how many hours a week he thought was needed to 

do the job and Cox responded 24.

Gloria Warden noted the sewage ordinance takes more of the 

Zoning Administrator's time and Wade Weathers said regardless 

the job needs to get done.

Hinsdale discussed the percentage of money fees for the services 

of the Planning and Zoning office in relation to actual costs of 

the services and current town residents are paying a higher 

percentage of the cost of running the office than applicants who 

are moving in to town.

Illick suggested that zoning fees be increased and hours should 

not be cut and she was in favor of giving Cox 24 hours per week. 

Hinsdale said he thought it should be 20 hours per week as the 

number of permits issued has dropped.

Wade Weathers and Harley Allen discussed the change to $2,000.00 

for legal expenses for Planning and Zoning and Illick explained 

the money was for consulting with the attorney on issues, but 

the budget for legal appeals was now under the Selectboard 

budget.

Weathers asked for reconsideration of Cox's hours. Hinsdale 

said he would reconsider it after he saw the new zoning fee 

schedule and Mack said he would reconsider it if there was an 

emergency. Weathers said he was concerned with job turnover and 

possible lawsuits from having inexperienced Zoning 

Administrators.

Rosenthal moved:

"TO ASSIGN 21 HOURS TO THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND

DEPUTY HEALTH OFFICER'S HOURS PER WEEK."

The motion failed for lack of a second.

Board members reviewed the Fire and Rescue budget with members 

from the department; Chris Davis, Ray Walker and Rick Pollack. 

Board members approved $3,100.00 for electricity and $2,000.00 

for heating oil after Davis reviewed actuals and projections for 

the new building. Pollack stated the Fire and Rescue department 

had spent a lot of time preparing their budget and felt it was a 

"true budget." Davis discussed with the board EMT requirements 

and salaries. Pollack informed the board the department must do 

community education which was cut in the budget to keep their 

license and acknowledged that performance of that obligation was 

done, but not well documented in the past. Board members 

approved $200.00 for fire prevention and $500.00 for public 

education.





Board of Selectmen -7- January 24, 2000

Hinsdale noted the Fire and Rescue budget would have to be 

revisited and Schroeder added $1,900.00 was added to the budget 

at this meeting. Mack predicted the voters would have "sticker 

shock" at the percentage of increase over last year's budget.

Board members discussed employee benefits and Rosenthal 

suggested that the $1,000.00 in lieu of insurance payment to 

Gloria Warden remain in the budget.

Board members level funded the highway budget and budgeted 

$9,000.00 for land maintenance.

Board members reviewed a salary increase of 2.5% for the library 

and decreased library acquisitions by $250.00.

Charity donations at a total of $9,890.00 were left intact.

Illick reviewed the Recreation budget with board members, saying 

Jesse Bradley wanted to make some changes to the budget, but 

would keep the same bottom line. Mack asked why it cost 

$1,800.00 for taking the docks in and out of the water and 

suggested cutting the expense to $1,000.00. Hinsdale suggested 

asking Bradley to go over her budget with the board and make 

sure she stays on budget.

Illick moved and the motion was seconded by

Rosenthal:

"TO KEEP THE RECREATION BUDGET AT $13,075.00 WITH

THE DOCK MAINTENANCE AT $1,800.00."

Vote: 2 in favor (Illick, Rosenthal) 2 opposed

(Mack, Sheldon-Dean), 1 abstained (Hinsdale).

Hinsdale moved and the motion was seconded by

Rosenthal:

"TO LEVEL FUND THE BUDGET AS PRINTED."

Vote: 4 in favor, 1 opposed (Mack).

Illick explained to Hinsdale the decision by the board to pay 

off the computer lease this year and the cost savings.

Board members discussed the proposed change to Article 2 of the 

Town Warning.

Rosenthal moved and the motion was seconded by

Illick:

"THAT ARTICLE 2 OF THE WARNING REMAIN THE SAME AND

ADD THAT TAXES BE DEEMED PAID IF: THE TAXES ARE

RECEIVED BY THE TREASURER ON OR BEFORE THE END OF

BUSINESS HOURS ON THE DUE DATE."

Vote: 2 in favor, 3 opposed (Mack, Hinsdale,

Sheldon-Dean).

Sheldon-Dean suggested the issue be reviewed by the town 

attorney.

Board members revised the Warning to have Article 4 be scheduled 

for discussion of the senior center, to delete the Article on 

Recreation fees and to make Article 7 be "Other Business."

Board of Selectmen -8- January 24, 2000

EXECUTIVE SESSION - PENDING LEGAL CASES - KELLY, HINSDALE MINER

Hinsdale said he would have to recuse himself from the 

discussion of legal cases, because one of the parties involved 

is his ex-spouse. Illick suggested Hinsdale discuss personnel 

issues with the board in Executive Session and then leave for 

the evening.

Rosenthal moved and the motion was seconded by

Hinsdale:

"TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS PERSONNEL

COMPENSATION."

Vote: All in favor.

Executive Session ran from 11:18 to 11:37 p.m.

Rosenthal advised the board had made no decisions in Executive 

Session.

Hinsdale moved and the motion was seconded by

Mack:

"TO APPROVE THE BUDGET AS ADVISED AND AUTHORIZE THE

CHAIR AND SELECTBOARD ASSISTANT TO MAKE CHANGES ON

THE DOCUMENT."

Vote: All in favor.

Rosenthal advised the warning will be reviewed by the town 

attorney and signed by the board members.

Hinsdale left for the evening.

Zoning Administrator Louis Cox reviewed pending cases with the 

Selectboard. In the case of Carol Hinsdale, Cox said he had 

written a letter to the town attorney to get a court order to do 

a site visit of the property.

Cox said the case of the Kelly's septic appeal has been put on 

hold while they look for a new site for septic.

Mack and Illick said they had talked with the town attorney on 

the Miner case and decided to be passive on the case as Miner 

admitted what he did was wrong.



BILL SIGNING/OTHER DISCUSSION

Board members reviewed and signed bills.

Rosenthal moved and the motion was seconded by

Illick:

"TO ADJOURN."

Vote: All in favor.

The meeting was adjourned at 11:48 p.m.

Minutes submitted by:

Debby Flynn